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KeymasterPictures of Notice board at Mill and the demolition of the Waste and Pulp Prep Area of the mill.
Courtesy of Peter Preston.
Does anyone know the significance of the bee on the notice board?Chris Bennett
KeymasterInteresting link to Blackburn fireman’s personal notes of the mill location and layout:
http://www.blackburnfirehistory.org.uk/Chris Bennett
KeymasterThanks for your input Taff.
I was involve with a major starch trial at the mill in the 1990s. It was very ambitious, trying to replace the size press with reacted wet-end starch. Would have been great if it worked.
We were defeated by the poor general runnability of the machine. I could not believe the accepted lost-time when we were setting up the trial – as I remember it we were told that the average output equated to 14 tns/hr but the reel-up output was more like 18 tns/hr; the difference being lost-time.
The top-wire drainage was really sensitive and when we got close to the machine I could see why. Our introduction of large amounts of polymer impacted the drainage and that was it sheet down. Most machines would have coped. Machine crews were great very patient.
It would be interesting to hear more of your experiences Taff.
Chris Bennett
KeymasterThanks Daven – now discovered how to relocate.
Chris Bennett
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Label for sale at http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1928-British-Vegetable-Parchment-Mills-Northfleet-Kent-/232251483685
Image by permission seller
Chris Bennett
KeymasterHi Ian, I had not included (only just in post 1970 shut period and very specialised). Here is what I have:
Mill British Vegetable Parchment Mills Address Galley Hill, Northfleet, Kent, Nat Grid Location TQ 610749 Companies British Vegetable Parchment Mills; Inveresk Paper English Mill Excise No ND Status Shut during 1970 to 2015 Est. Papermaking Start Date 1920 Date Closed Mar-1971 Links Link1 edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk Link2 http://www.claymakingplaces.org.uk Britain from Above http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk Not a lot. Pictures on Britain From Above are interesting
Chris Bennett
KeymasterThanks for your input. I have had real difficulty with being certain about the mills of Dartford / Northfleet and would welcome some definitive input.
London Paper Mill was the holding company, the mill was called Riverside Mill.
Kent County has it as previously Phoenix papermill (http://webapps.kent.gov.uk/KCC.ExploringKentsPast.Web.Sites.Public/SingleResult.aspx?uid=%27mke40261%27) and being the first to use wood pulp.
However, (http://kenttodayandyesterday.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/dartford-creek-in-old-pictures.html ) and several other sources has Pheonix taken over by Bouroughs Wellcome (prob 1889) and it is probable that Northfleet Paper Mill (under Ekman) was the first to use wood pulp.
I think Riverside Mill shut in 1968 which is why I did not include it before.
Here is the information I have on it:Mill Riverside Paper Mills Address Chapel Lane, Dartford, Kent, Nat Grid Location TQ 544745 Companies London Paper Mills Ltd, Reed Paper & Board Ltd. English Mill Excise No 90 Status Shut before 1970 Est. Papermaking Start Date 1889 Date Closed 1968 Links Link1 archive.historicengland.org.uk Link2 http://www.gracesguide.co.uk Link3 edithsstreets.blogspot.co.uk Link4 Phillips’ Paper Trade Directory of the World 1923 p33 Britain from Above http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk Chris Bennett
KeymasterFrom http://kenttodayandyesterday.blogspot.co.uk/2010/01/viscount-northcliffe-1865-1922-pioneer.html
Anonymous17 November 2011 at 14:50
I used to work in the building to the right of the White House which was the paper mills Lab. on the top floor, we also had a small store on the top floor of the White House. I used to collect samples around the mill paper and chemicals to test,also pulp samples off the ships before they were unloaded. There were 4 of us working there.in 1956. Martin.
Anonymous3 March 2014 at 15:37
In the mid 50’s I worked for the M.D. of Imperial P.M. in New Bridge St., London. We had a chair no-one ever sat in, that had been Lord Northcliffe’s. One of the main newsprint sources was the region behind Clarke City, Canada, on the St.Lawrence. I worked for the Managing Director of Imperial, and spent one whole day being shown around the works at Gravesend. Amazing place – so many really skilled workers. The noise of the rollers. Have never forgotten it. In my time at Imperial I learned quite a lot about papermaking and woodpulp.Chris Bennett
KeymasterDid leave out of mills as shut date was earlier than 1970 but here is what I have found for Stoke Canon
Mill Stoke Canon Paper Mill Address Exeter, Somerset, Nat Grid Location SX 935970 Companies Tremlett (Fredk.) & Co., Ltd.; Reed and Smith Group English Mill Excise No 457 Status Shut pre 1970 Est. Papermaking Start Date Bef 1806 Date Closed 1960s Links Link1 Phillips’ Paper Trade Directory of the World 1923 p50 Link2 http://www.bbc.co.uk Link3 http://www.foda.org.uk Link4 http://www.heritagegateway.org.uk -
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KeymasterSorry I missed this one. Number 141 on my shut mills list
Mill Trews Weir Paper Mill Address Exeter, Devon, Nat Grid Location SX925916 Companies R. Dewdney and Co; Gillman & Co; Pitts (John) & Sons English Mill Excise No 70 Status Shut during 1970 to 2015 Est. Papermaking Start Date 1834 Date Closed 1983 Links Link1 http://www.exetermemories.co.uk Link2 http://www.heritage-explorer.co.uk Link3 commons.wikimedia.org/ Link4 https://millsarchive.org/explore/mills/entry/7486/trews-weir-paper-mill-exeter#.WM-y0aJBoe4 Britain from Above http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk Chris Bennett
KeymasterThanks for your input.
I have not been certain about the location myself. Had to separate the two South Shields Mills:
Phillips Paper Trade 1923: Hendon Paper Works Co., Ltd., Hendon Mill (8),
Hendon, Sunderland (E). N.R.S., Sunderland. T.A., “Hendon, Sunderland.” T.N., 192. Four Paper Machines, one 92 ins. two 90 ins., one 86 ins. T.S. and E.S. Writings, Envelope, Printings, Music, Cartridges, etc.; also Tinted Writings, Plain and D.E.; all qualities in either M.F. or S.C.Also Ford Paper Works, Ltd., Hylton (83), nr. Sunderland (E). N.R.S., Hylton. T.A., ” Ford, Hylton.” T.N., 135. Four machines, 100 ins., 90 ins., 72 ins. and 60 ins. E.S. Writings, Printings, Fine News, Music and Cartridges.
The 8 and 83 in brackets refer to the Mill Excise Number.
For locations: Hendon http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw016392 Gives Grid Ref NZ 411551
Ford http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw016427 Gives Grid Ref NZ 361574 I think it could have been to the east at NZ370579
Have now found http://www.twsitelines.info/SMR/2776 which gives location as NZ35965734 so pretty well as the britainfromabove.
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KeymasterMy apologies for moving it.I’ll try to get it back soon.
Love to have some more about your experiences there.
I remember the Technical Manager (Peter?) who went the Kemsley.
Chris Bennett
KeymasterJeffrey Nettlestead has provided the following information on Wolvercote:
In 1956, I was taken on as an Apprentice Commercial Artist by Millspaugh Ltd., an engineering Company in Sheffield. (The term ‘Graphic Designer’ was not then in common use).
One of Millspaugh’s major activities was the design, manufacture and installation of Papermaking equipment. When I joined the Publicity Dept., another apprentice was the Company’s photographer and had already been there for 2-3 years. As his junior, I helped carry and set up his equipment on photographic missions and gradually learned aspects of the art of industrial photography, to the point that, when he was conscripted for National Service around 1957, I became the unofficial photographer in addition to my position as commercial artist.
Despite my youth and limited experience, particularly in cinematography, it therefore fell to me, either in 1957 or possibly early 1958, to fulfil the Company’s requirement that a cine record be made of recently installed new plant at a Mill in Oxfordshire.
I am not absolutely certain but nevertheless fairly confident that my subsequent film recording was made at the Wolvercote Mill.
It was a 16mm black & white film with no soundtrack. To the best of my recollection, after editing, it ran for about 40 mins, and covered the whole process from suspended wet fibres through to reels of finished paper.
Regrettably, I have no idea whether it still exists.
Although it is highly unlikely that the cine recording I made is still in existence, I thought that, (assuming you are not already aware), you might be interested to know that Sheffield Archives lists a record of the minutes of directors meetings at Millspaugh Ltd., 1956-58. It seems to me that there is a strong likelihood that those minutes will contain references to the new equipment produced and installed at Wolvercote during that period.
Following my own National Service November 1958-60, I returned to complete my apprenticeship, but was made redundant early in 1961 after Millspaugh Ltd was acquired by the Swiss Company Escher Wyss. The Publicity Department was closed down at the same time.
This brought to an end my connections with the Papermaking business.
While browsing, I further discovered that Millspaugh had more changes of ownership after I left, including Sulzer Group and Ashlow Steel, before finally closing down in1979.Chris Bennett
KeymasterThank you Stephen, I have removed the link. I was always aware that internet information can be dubious but in the absence of anything else there is the danger of the little wrong info becoming accepted.
This is exactly the type of information that we need. If you can write a correct version, either for here or for the BAPH Quarterly or even for Wikipedia it would be a valuable addition.Chris Bennett
KeymasterThanks Daven
The book is on-line at archive .org
https://archive.org/details/wolvercotemillst0000cart/wolvercotemillst0000cart
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